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Neues Waffengesetz könnte Paintball in Kalifornien verbieten

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Neues Waffengesetz könnte Paintball in Kalifornien verbieten

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09.06.2011 11:16




In summary:

Currently, there is a $10,000 fine for the sale or transport of "imitation firearms" in the state of California. An "imitation firearm" is anything a reasonable person might perceive as a firearm, however, "BB devices" including paintball guns are currently excepted from this law.

The California Legislature is considering Senate Bill 798, which would remove the exception for "BB devices", including paintball guns. The result is that the sale or transfer of any paintball gun that is not entirely white, bright red, bright orange, bright yellow, bright green, bright blue, bright pink or bright purple could result in a $10,000 fine.

Preventing this bill from passing is important to all paintball players.

Because the entire surface of the device - potentially including your barrel, tank and hopper on an assembled gun - must be brightly colored, virtually no current paintball gun would be legal if this bill were passed.

State legislators also often copy bills passed by other states. If this bill is passed in California, it makes it much more likely that legislators in other states will attempt to pass similar legislation.


What can you do?

Most importantly, when communicating about this issue, be respectful of those you are speaking with, especially state legislators. Legislators want to hear your opinion, but you will have a much greater impact when communicating in a respectful manner.

SB 798 is currently in front of the California Assembly Committee on Public Safety. There are 7 Assembly Members on this committee, and their contact information is below. We want to make sure these assembly members are informed about why it is not necessary to include paintball guns in this law, why paintball is an important activity for you, and how this bill negatively impacts your ability to play paintball.


A form letter you can use to contact legislators should be available very soon. If you write your own letter, state that you are opposed to Senate Bill 798 because it would affect paintball guns, explain how the bill would negatively impact you, be sure to note that you are over 18 or have your parent or guardian sign in support of your letter if you are under 18, and if you live in California, make sure you include where in California you live.

Make sure to be overwhelmingly polite. Being rude in any way could very well hurt all of paintball.

Bill Author:

Senator Kevin De Leon
State Capitol
Room 5108
Sacramento, CA 95814
(916) 651-4022
Fax (916) 327-8817
Email: senator.deleon@sen.ca.gov


California Assembly Committee on Public Safety:

Assemblymember Tom Ammiano, Chair
State Capitol
P.O. Box 942849
Sacramento, CA 94249-0013
Tel: (916) 319-2013
Fax: (916) 319-2113
Email: http://asmdc.org/members/a13/ (click Contact Tom)

Assemblymember Steve Knight, Vice-Chair
State Capitol
Sacramento, CA 95814
(P) (916) 319-2036
(F) (916) 319-2136
Email: http://arc.asm.ca.gov/member/36/?p=email

Assemblymember Gil Cedillo
State Capitol
P.O. Box 942849
Sacramento, CA 94249-0045
Tel: (916) 319-2045
Fax: (916) 319-2145
http://asmdc.org/members/a45/ (click Contact Gil)

Assemblymember Curt Hagman
State Capitol
Sacramento, CA 95814
916-319-2060
916-319-2160 fax
Email: http://arc.asm.ca.gov/member/60/?p=email

Assembly Member Jerry Hill
State Capitol
P.O. Box 942849
Sacramento, CA 94249-0019
Tel: (916) 319-2019
Fax: (916) 319-2119
Email: http://asmdc.org/members/a19/ (Click Contact Jerry)

Assemblymember Holly Mitchell
State Capitol
P.O. Box 942849
Sacramento, CA 94249-0047
Tel: (916) 319-2047
Fax: (916) 319-2147
Email: http://asmdc.org/members/a47/ (Click Contact Holly)

Assemblymember Nancy Skinner
State Capitol
P.O. Box 942849
Sacramento, CA 94249-0014
Tel: (916) 319-2014
Fax: (916) 319-2114
Email: http://asmdc.org/members/a14/ (Click Contact Nancy)
THIS WILL ALSO APPLY TO PAINTBALL!!!


SB 798, as amended, De León. Firearms: BB devices: imitation firearms.

Existing law defines “BB device” to mean any instrument that expels a projectile, such as a BB or a pellet, through the force of air pressure, gas pressure, or spring action, or any spot marker gun. Existing law defines “imitation firearm” to mean any BB device, toy gun, replica of a firearm, or other device that is so substantially similar in coloration and overall appearance to an existing firearm as to lead a reasonable person to perceive that the device is a firearm but provides that a BB device is not an imitation firearm in regard to a provision imposing a civil fine on the sale, manufacture, transportation, receipt, or distribution of imitation firearms for commercial purposes. Existing law regulates the sale of BB devices and imitation firearms and makes it a misdemeanor for any person to change, alter, remove, or obliterate any coloration or marking that is required by any applicable state or federal law or regulation for any imitation firearm. Existing law further defines a handgun to be a pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person. 97This bill would require, except as specified, every BB device and imitation firearm that appears to be a handgun that has a barrel less than 16 inches in length to have the entire exterior surface of the device white, bright red, bright orange, bright yellow, bright green, bright blue, bright pink, or bright purple, either singly or as the predominate color in combination with other colors in any pattern, or be constructed of transparent or translucent materials that permit unmistakable observation of the device’s complete contents.

This bill would make the provision imposing a civil fine on the sale, manufacture, transportation, receipt, or distribution of imitation firearms for commercial purposes applicable to BB devices.
Vote: majority.
Appropriation: no.
Fiscal committee: no.
State-mandated local program: no

SECTION 1. Section 16700 of the Penal Code is amended to read:
16700. (a)**As used in this part, “imitation firearm” means any BB device, toy gun, replica of a firearm, or other device that is so substantially similar in coloration and overall appearance to an existing firearm as to lead a reasonable person to perceive that the device is a firearm. (b)**As used in Section 20165, “imitation firearm” does not include any of the following: A nonfiring collector’s replica that is historically significant, and is offered for sale in conjunction with a wall plaque or presentation case.

(2) A device where the entire exterior surface of the device is white, bright red, bright orange, bright yellow, bright green, bright blue, bright pink, or bright purple, either singly or as the predominant color in combination with other colors in any pattern, as provided by federal regulations governing imitation firearms, or where the entire device is constructed of transparent or
translucent materials which permits unmistakable observation of the device’s complete contents, as provided by federal regulations governing imitation firearms.[/QUOTE]
Zuletzt geändert von Florian am 10.06.2011 14:33, insgesamt 1-mal geändert.

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09.06.2011 11:18

SB 798, as amended, De León. Firearms: BB devices: imitation
firearms.
Existing law defines "BB device" to mean any instrument that
expels a projectile, such as a BB or a pellet, through the force of
air pressure, gas pressure, or spring action, or any spot marker gun.
Existing law defines "imitation firearm" to mean any BB device, toy
gun, replica of a firearm, or other device that is so substantially
similar in coloration and overall appearance to an existing firearm
as to lead a reasonable person to perceive that the device is a
firearm but provides that a BB device is not an imitation
firearm in regard to a provision imposing a civil fine on
the sale, manufacture, transportation, receipt, or distribution of
imitation firearms for commercial purposes.


This bill would make the provision imposing a civil fine on the
sale, manufacture, transportation, receipt, or distribution of
imitation firearms for commercial purposes applicable to BB devices.


Vote: majority. Appropriation: no. Fiscal committee: no.
State-mandated local program: no.

SECTION 1. Section 16700 of the Penal
Code is amended to read:
16700. (a) As used in this part, "imitation firearm" means any BB
device, toy gun, replica of a firearm, or other device that is so
substantially similar in coloration and overall appearance to an
existing firearm as to lead a reasonable person to perceive that the
device is a firearm.
(b) As used in Section 20165, "imitation firearm" does not include
any of the following:
(1) A nonfiring collector's replica that is historically
significant, and is offered for sale in conjunction with a wall
plaque or presentation case.
(2) A device where the entire exterior surface of the
device is white, bright red, bright orange, bright yellow, bright
green, bright blue, bright pink, or bright purple, either singly or
as the predominant color in combination with other colors in any
pattern, as provided by federal regulations governing imitation
firearms, or where the entire device is constructed of transparent or
translucent materials which permits unmistakable observation of the
device's complete contents, as provided by federal regulations
governing imitation firearms.


see the italics? thats the new and important stuff. this means that ANY airsoft gun or paintball marker manufactured in or transported into the state of california commercially MUST be entirely white, bright red, bright orange, bright yellow, bright green, bright blue, bright pink, or bright purple, either singly or as the predominant color in combination with other colors in any pattern, for you speedballers, this means you have no other options for anno color. Your body MUST be one of the approved colors. that means no olive, no tan, no silver, no deep blue, no brown, no dark red, no black.

see this gun?
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ILLEGAL

Bild
ILLEGAL

Bild
ILLEGAL

Bild
ILLEGAL

just checking bst links in sigs from pages 6-9:
bgrayber: both the 09 egos in your sig would be illegal to buy in cali
TheHef: same goes for your geo2
wholzsean: same for your ninja ego8 and any other "ninja" gun
and so would my red/black fade Ripper 2, my spyder classic, my vibe, my spyder AMG, and my sponge/splash bob long cocker.

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09.06.2011 11:19

The bill states that anything a "reasonable person" would think is a firearm counts as an imitation firearm.

The problem is that is a very vague definition. This bill, if passed, would allow any city or district attorney to assess a $10,000 fine for having a paintball gun that they think looks too much like a real firearm.

For you and me, no paintball gun looks like a real firearm. For grandma, if it's got a trigger, she might think it's a firearm.

Once you are facing the fine, even if you show that the paintball gun doesn't look enough like a real firearm to count, you'll have spent thousands of dollars on legal fees defending yourself.

If this bill passes, anyone with a paintball gun could find themselves facing thousands of dollars in legal fees if any police officer decides their paintball equipment looks to dangerous and their city or district attorney assesses the fine on you, you're out thousands of dollars even if you win!

And any field or store would face that fine for every gun they have. Do you think anyone will risk hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines to rent or sell paintball equipment? Of course not. So you won't be able to buy a paintball gun in California that isn't entirely brightly colored ever again.


Do you want to play in the woods with a neon orange beacon showing your opponents where you are?

Do you want to play speedball where the refs can't see any gun hits because all the guns are bright orange and pink?

Are you OK with your local field having half as many people to play against, or closing, and having to drive further to play?


This affects all paintball players.


- Chris

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09.06.2011 11:21

denke da ird industrie und waffenlobie nen lauten machen,

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09.06.2011 11:22

Most Important: Be respectful!

Polite communication is important. Our goal is to show legislators why requiring paintball guns to be brightly colored will not improve public safety, is unnecessary, and will hurt California residents and tax revenues.

Everyone:

Join this Facebook group: http://www.facebook.com/SavePaintballin ... ia?sk=info

If you do not live in California:

Think of anyone you know who lives in California, and encourage them to contact their legislators using the steps below. Make sure you understand the basics of the law so you can answer any questions they have. The basics are covered in this thread:

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=3620936

If you live in California:

1) Find your Assemblymember
2) Call them
3) Fax them
4) Call the Committee on Public Safety Assembly Members
5) Fax them

Read on for the details on how to do these 5 steps.

Contact your legislators, especially your Assemblymember. To find your Assemblymember, enter your address here:

http://192.234.213.69/amapsearch/framepage.asp

You'll see something that looks like this:

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Your Assembly District number is in the red circle. If you are in Assembly District 13, 14, 19, 36, 45, 47, or 60, it's especially important that you act, because your Assemblymember is one of the only 7 Assemblymembers on the Committee on Public Safety that will be voting on this bill next.

Once you know your Assemblymember, call their Capitol Office number, circled in pink on the example. A staff person will answer the phone. You want to tell them your name, that you live in their district, and that you are opposed to Senate Bill 798 unless it keeps the exception for paintball markers.

Second, you should fax or mail the Assemblymember. There is already a form letter available here: Paintball Player Form Letter

Fill in the blanks and print it. Then sign the letter and fax it in:

District 13: Assemblymember Tom Ammiano, Chair - Fax: (916) 319-2113
District 14: Assemblymember Nancy Skinner - Fax: (916) 319-2114
District 19: Assembly Member Jerry Hill - Fax: (916) 319-2119
District 36: Assemblymember Steve Knight, Vice-Chair - Fax: (916) 319-2136
District 45: Assemblymember Gil Cedillo - Fax: (916) 319-2145
District 47: Assemblymember Holly Mitchell - Fax: (916) 319-2147
District 60: Assemblymember Curt Hagman - Fax: 916-319-2160

If you own or operate a paintball business, there is a different letter available for you here: Paintball Business Form Letter

If you can't fax, you can email, but faxing is better. Do NOT send your letter as an attachment! You must cut and paste the letter into the body of the email.

Email addresses:

Dist 13: Tom Ammiano – Chair - Assemblymember.Ammiano@assembly.ca.gov
Dist 14: Nancy Skinner - Assemblymember.Skinner@assembly.ca.gov
Dist 19: Jerry Hill - Assemblymember.Hill@assembly.ca.gov
Dist 36: Steve Knight – Vice Chair - Assemblymember.Knight@assembly.ca.gov
Dist 45: Gilbert Cedillo - Assemblymember.Cedillo@assembly.ca.gov
Dist 47: Holly J. Mitchell - Assemblymember.Mitchell@assembly.ca.gov
Dist 60: Curt Hagman - Assemblymember.Hagman@assembly.ca.gov

Everyone who lives in California should also contact all members of the Committee on Public Safety. You can use the same letters to fax (or email if you can't fax):

Player Form Letter
Business Form Letter

To call, use the numbers below:

Tom Ammiano – 916-319-2013
Steve Knight - 916-319-2036
Gilbert Cedillo - 916-319-2045
Curt Hagman - 916-319-2060
Jerry Hill - 916-319-2019
Holly J. Mitchell - 916-319-2047
Nancy Skinner - 916-319-2014



Remember, the vote is on Tuesday, so you must act now!


- Chris

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09.06.2011 11:23

Warbeast hat geschrieben:denke da ird industrie und waffenlobie nen lauten machen,
die lage ist wohl ziemlich ernst, ähnlich wie bei uns damals. am 14. juni ist stichtag. da oben steht was man als spieler machen kann. UND das betrifft uns auch!

wir werden unseren support anbieten!

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09.06.2011 11:34

Es wäre toll, wenn wir uns einbringen könnten, sogar Amerikaner haben damals bei unsere Petition teilgenommen. Wie ist Eure Meinung dazu?

Wie ernst die Lage ist, seht Ihr daran, dass PbNation ein eigenes Forum aufgemacht hat:

http://www.pbnation.com/forumdisplay.php?f=823

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09.06.2011 11:35

jop mch flo. in jeder erdenklichen form werden wir unseren amerikanischen freunden helfen wollen. wir wissen ja noch vom letzten mal wie sehr die stimme jedes enzelnen wirken kann .

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09.06.2011 11:36

Wenn es eine Petition gibt, dann unterschreibe ich ;)

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09.06.2011 11:37

kann mir jemand den TIEFEREN sinn erklären?!
ausser dass sie vermeiden wollen, dass die dinger unter umständen für ne echte knarre gehalten werden?!

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09.06.2011 11:38

Und wer weis wann wir wieder deren Stimmen brauchen!

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das ist der tiefere sinn...

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CRiS hat geschrieben:jop mch flo. in jeder erdenklichen form werden wir unseren amerikanischen freunden helfen wollen. wir wissen ja noch vom letzten mal wie sehr die stimme jedes enzelnen wirken kann .
ThreeD hat geschrieben:raehel, we would like to offer you any help from Germany/Europe. I've wrote you an e-mail via PbN.

We are experienced with that problem as in Germany the Government wanted to ban Paintball over here. We had three of the hardest months in our live activating thousands of paintball players across the world for petitions and contacting politicians.

Please let us know how we can support you, we will do everything we can.

Our forum is having 16k members and I will activate as many as I can, if it is helping in any way.

Thanks!
und ich habe denen eine e-mail geschrieben, ich hoffe IHR seid dabei, denn ich konnte das ganze damals auch auf nation promotoen und habe 100%tigen support von nation bekommen!

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09.06.2011 11:40

J.Lo hat geschrieben:kann mir jemand den TIEFEREN sinn erklären?!
ausser dass sie vermeiden wollen, dass die dinger unter umständen für ne echte knarre gehalten werden?!
nein, genau der ist es

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09.06.2011 11:44

Wenn Ihr eine Email an die staatlichen Vertreter schreiben wollt: Hier gibt es einen schönen vorgefertigten Brief.

http://www.empirepaintball.com/wp-conte ... SB-798.doc Email Adresse stehen ja oben.

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09.06.2011 11:47

super leute! danke!

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09.06.2011 11:53

also hier wären auch die emailadressen:

Dist 13: Tom Ammiano – Chair - Assemblymember.Ammiano@assembly.ca.gov
Dist 14: Nancy Skinner - Assemblymember.Skinner@assembly.ca.gov
Dist 19: Jerry Hill - Assemblymember.Hill@assembly.ca.gov
Dist 36: Steve Knight – Vice Chair - Assemblymember.Knight@assembly.ca.gov
Dist 45: Gilbert Cedillo - Assemblymember.Cedillo@assembly.ca.gov
Dist 47: Holly J. Mitchell - Assemblymember.Mitchell@assembly.ca.gov
Dist 60: Curt Hagman - Assemblymember.Hagman@assembly.ca.gov



jetzt aber mal zum thema.
es geht nicht darum das paintball verboten wird, sondern, dass die marker alle eine einheitliche Farbe bekommen.
Die meisten abgeordneten scheinen ehh dagegen zu sein.

das sollte hier kein thema werden, das problem ist made in usa, jeder vollidiot kann da nunmal ne richtige waffe kaufen, daher ist es notwendig, das sich spielzeug waffen abheben. ich halte das für ausgesprochen sinnvoll!!

das problem ist halt bloß ein formulierungsfehler, wodurch paintball mitbetroffen ist..

desweiteren befürchte ich, das wir wenig tun können.
da es wohl keine liste/petition gibt, wo es einfach nur darum geht viele Namen drauf stehne zu haben.

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09.06.2011 12:19

St0ny hat geschrieben:
J.Lo hat geschrieben:kann mir jemand den TIEFEREN sinn erklären?!
ausser dass sie vermeiden wollen, dass die dinger unter umständen für ne echte knarre gehalten werden?!
nein, genau der ist es
aber dann müssten sie aber auch wieder konsequent sein bis hin zu den plastik-spielzeugpistolen für kinder... kranke welt...

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09.06.2011 12:19

Joa, eine Email mit der Aussage "California Senate Bill 798" zu überdenken, wegen "blahh" kann ja nicht schaden ;D


Edit:

und so beginnt es also:

Von: Assemblymember Skinner [mailto:Assemblymember.Skinner@assembly.ca.gov]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 9. Juni 2011 12:00
An: Nogshot - Christoph Noga
Betreff: Thank You for Contacting Assemblymember Nancy Skinner

THIS ACCOUNT NO LONGER RECEIVES E-MAIL.

Thank you for contacting AD14 Assemblymember Nancy Skinner. Due to the high volume of e-mails this is an automatic response to guide you so that your inquiry is directed appropriately.

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09.06.2011 14:09

Sehr schön, sie können schon keine E-Mails mehr erhalten. :D

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09.06.2011 14:38

J.Lo hat geschrieben:
St0ny hat geschrieben:
J.Lo hat geschrieben:kann mir jemand den TIEFEREN sinn erklären?!
ausser dass sie vermeiden wollen, dass die dinger unter umständen für ne echte knarre gehalten werden?!
nein, genau der ist es
aber dann müssten sie aber auch wieder konsequent sein bis hin zu den plastik-spielzeugpistolen für kinder... kranke welt...
wenn das der grund ist, dann müssten sie auch farbsprühpistolen oder wasserspritzen fürn gartenschlauch verbieten. -_-

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09.06.2011 14:57

Ach die Amis mal wieder (wobei CA ist ja nicht gerade die USA...). Bloß nicht..was bleibt uns denn noch?!!

Ich seh das schon kommen; wenn weiterhin so ein Eiertanz veranstaltet wird, bleiben uns wirklich bald nur noch Gartenschläuche^^

Ich sehs schon vor mir, die "Gardena Indoor Masters 2012" (Premium-Partner Toom-Baumarkt)...na Gottseidank hab ich schon 'ne Ausrüstung dafür:

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Und wenn die auch auf den Feldern verboten werden..geh ich halt zur nächsten StarTrek-Convention mit so 'nem Teil.

Aber ich bin zuversichtlich, dass die gewaltige Waffenlobby drüben das Baby schon schaukeln wird (ob ich das gutheiße, ist ja was anderes)...auch nach dem Ableben von Charlton Heston. :gun:

Also, bevor hier alle wieder durchdrehen; abwarten und Tee trinken...

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09.06.2011 15:05

J.Lo hat geschrieben:
St0ny hat geschrieben:
J.Lo hat geschrieben:kann mir jemand den TIEFEREN sinn erklären?!
ausser dass sie vermeiden wollen, dass die dinger unter umständen für ne echte knarre gehalten werden?!
nein, genau der ist es
aber dann müssten sie aber auch wieder konsequent sein bis hin zu den plastik-spielzeugpistolen für kinder... kranke welt...
sind sie

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